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Roxannebo
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:02 pm    Post subject: DO Tax Code Reply with quote

Hello,

I have to make a payment to an employee, after leaving, who was on a DO tax code.

Normally on any other Tax code the employee is put on to BR.
Should I put them on to a DO M1 in this instance??

Any help will be great!

Looking forward to your responses Smile
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Ian Congreave
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: Tax code after termination Reply with quote

Welcome to the Forum and thank you for the question!

It seems sensible to deduct tax using D0 from a payment after termination and after issuing the P45. However, PAYE rules do not require you to do so. The official instructions, found on page 15 of CWG2, are that you use code BR M1, do not issue another P45, and write a letter to the employee giving the date of payment, the gross amount of the payment, and the amount of tax deducted. It is worth warning the employee that HMRC will still want the tax that you haven't deducted in the future. The payment and tax deducted must be included on the employee's year-end P14.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:16 am    Post subject: Tax Code after termination Reply with quote

I couldn't have put it better myself Ian, but don't you think it is odd that in this case the correct code to use is one which collects less tax than the employee was normally supposed to pay and where there will have to be some settlement later.

We all know that the use of BR protects employees, and HMRC, from underpayments when a payment is made after leaving but I would have thought they, HMRC, would also recognise that if the normal code was D0, or a K code, that it might be prudent to change the rules in order to preserve their revenue.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always found that strange, obviously a loop hole that could be put to effect!

I seem to think with a Payment after leaving you still need to complete a P45, but send all parts back to the revenue.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Tax code after termination Reply with quote

To clarify the rules here, two quotes from CWG2

In the case of ‘standard’ payments, e.g. final payment of salary or wages, holiday pay, week in hand payments, bonuses, arrears of pay and so on, quoting from page 15:
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If you have already given an employee a form P45, you should deduct PAYE at the basic rate (non-cumulatively) at the time you make the payment. Write code ‘BR’ as the amended code on form P11 and enter details of the payment and PAYE deducted.
In such cases, you should provide the employee with a letter giving the following details:
• the date of the payment(s)
• the gross amount of each payment
• the amount of PAYE deducted from each payment.
You must not give the employee another form P45. You do not need to notify us when making the extra payment, although you must ensure that the payment is recorded on form P14 at the end of the tax year.

In the case of 'non-standard' payments, e.g. special termination payments (such as when the £30,000 exemption applies), quoting from page 97:
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Where no tax is due (because the payment is not taxable or the payment is a ‘taxable on amounts over £30,000’ payment below this limit) do not include in gross pay on either form P11 or form P45.
Where tax is due (because the payment is taxable in full or the payment is a ‘taxable on amounts over £30,000’ payment above this limit), and:
• you make the payment to the employee when or before the employee leaves:
– include the taxable amount in gross pay on form P11 and operate PAYE in the normal way
– include the taxable amount in gross pay on form P45
– write to us with Part 1 of the form P45 advising us of the amount and date of the lump sum payment; we can then contact the employee if any repayment is due
• you make the payment to the employee after the employee leaves:
– include the taxable amount in gross pay on form P11 for the tax week or month number in which you make payment
– operate PAYE by using Code BR (non-cumulatively)
– do not issue a further form P45. Instead write to us advising us of the amount and date of the lump sum payment and the amount of tax deducted
– provide the employee with a copy of the letter you send to us.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

regarding the 'letter' does anyone actually do this - we issue a payslip that has all that information, hopefully, this is enough to satisfy compliance
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Code BR for termination payments Reply with quote

I don't know how common the practice is but, in the company I used to work at, we would always send a letter to someone whose taxable termination payment had been taxed using code BR instead of the more appropriate. The letter explained how the final payment was made up, i.e. how much of it was taxable and how much exempt, and included a reminder that they were still liable for the additional tax on the termination payment. As I recall, we used to advise them to put enough money away in an interest account so as to be able to meet the remaining liability when it was demanded.
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